Addendum: forgot to mention the prime motivation for apologetics–love of neighbor. I mention it in the post, but don’t emphasize it to the degree I should have…booo, me.
You simply have to check out one of Wintery Knight’s posts from yesterday. He calls out Christians who do not defend the faith in public.
After detailing an ultimately fictional, yet all-too-real scenario of a Christian (“Eve”) who remains silent while she overhears co-workers malign God, he says:
Eve double-majored in business and computer science at the Indian Institute of Technology, and has an MBA from the London School of Economics. She has spent a ton of time, effort and money studying very difficult subjects for her job, and she even publishes research. She works full-time and runs her own business part-time, and earns about 200K per year. She lives in a huge house, drives a huge car, and vacations out of the country every 4 months.
Eve thinks she is a Christian. She has attended church since childhood, her husband is a church elder and she sings in the church choir. She reads the Bible and prays. She gives money to the poor. She teaches Sunday school to children. She has even read the Narnia novels three times.
But even though God is being maligned in Alice and Bob’s conversation, Eve is not going to stand up to defend God’s reputation to them, (or even to her own children, who are both committed atheists).
Like I mentioned, though the scenario is fictional and might be exaggerated slightly for effect, it is not far from reality. The point is that the rank-and-file Christian, far too often, is poorly equipped to be an ambassador in the public
square…and most are quite content to stay that way.
Pastors, as well, are quite content to reinforce that attitude. Every time, and I mean every time, I’ve heard of reason, evidence, and apologetics talked about from the pulpit, it comes with a but. As in:
“Apologetics has a place, but….as Paul says, knowledge puffs up.”
(Misunderstanding of 1 Corinthians 8 )
“Evidence is great for those that need it, but…God cannot be pleased without faith.”
(This understanding of faith is not biblical…it’s a false dichotomy. How many times in the book of Exodus alone does God give objective evidence, then say, “so that you may know”? Go ahead and count…it will take a while. This post will still be here when you are done.)
“Apologetics is wonderful…but God is more concerned with your heart.”
(Awful. More false dichotomies. I tire of them.)
“Showing Jesus to people is not about winning an argument…you just gotta ‘love on’ others.”
(Whoever said it was about winning an argument? Granted, apologetics can be abused, but so can love! Ever heard of “love bombing”? It is a favorite practice of cults. Besides, letting people stew in enslaving ideologies about God is not loving. Hell is real, and people will go there. Just ask the Boss. Don’t even try to paint the enterprise as running people over with debate or “shoving a philosophy text down someone’s throat.” Outlying abuses are no reason to disregard the whole ball of yarn. Don’t set fire to straw men.)
You can come up with your own trite “yah but.”
This leads to timidity, lack of courage (Afterall, who would want to stand up, when he knows full well he’ll be dumbstruck with nothing to say?), and a devaluing of God’s holiness.
You might balk at that last one (devaluing of God’s holiness), but there is a reason the mind is included in the greatest commandment in Matthew 22:37 and in our total response of worship to God’s greatness in Romans 12:2. In fact, WK hits on this later in the post:
So why is it that Eve is able to go to church for 20 years, sing in the choir, read the Bible, read the Narnia stories, pray on her knees, and yet still be unwilling to do the best thing for God and the best thing for her neighbor?
My boy, Wintery!
This one had me cheering from the ramparts. I have often wondered the same thing, and have scratched my head over the attitude of many when it comes to learning how to defend the faith…heck, strike that: when it comes to even learning how to share the gospel clearly! Our propensity to resort to empty and vapid bumper sticker sloganeering is breathtaking.
The most surprising part of all this is that such an attitude and way of life is found absolutely nowhere in the Bible! Paul, for example, never resorted to the simplistic, you-just-gotta-believe-and-have-faith-ism that is so popular today. He gave evidence regularly, and so did the other apostles. The first sermon ever preached in the Church age, by Peter in Acts 2-3, had apologetics laced throughout. And these fellas were not Phd brainiacs…they were simple fishermen and tentmakers (in the case of Paul). They were as blue collar as the Maytag man.
Another thing is that when people are caught in an environment where they have to defend God’s honor, they suddenly become starved for the kind of training Wintery advocates. If you regularly find yourself amidst a bunch of atheists, agnostics, and Muslims who are constantly challenging you on the reasonableness of your faith, chances are, you’ll start searching for answers pretty quickly. Hey, it happened to me. In other words, if your pants fall down, buying a belt suddenly moves up a few notches on your priority list.
The kicker is that many people never experience that felt need; they are sequestered in an environment of comfort. A decent number go to great lengths to maintain this bubble, avoiding being exposed. They are walking around in closeted quarters, with the shutters drawn and drapes pulled down, oblivious to the fact that their trousers are hanging around their ankles.
Many people assume apologetics is all about merely “winning an argument,” but nothing could be further from the truth. WK puts it in the proper perspective: it’s about defending God’s honor in public. If someone were clowning on your spouse at work, wouldn’t you want to stand up and say something? We have many Christians in the Church who refuse to do that when it comes to God’s reputation, and what’s worse, many pastors and Church who happily applaud such a cowardly attitude.
All the while, people continue to mock:
“Jesus had a wife. Haven’t you read the Da Vinci Code? The resurrection is a bunch of bunk designed to keep old white men in power.” Spare me the lecture about how it’s just fiction. Studies have demonstrated that people are all too willing to let Hollywood influence their beliefs. Check the link for details. Dan Brown himself sure thinks there’s something behind the story.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully” That’s a direct quote, by the way, by a very popular and widely influential atheist, Richard Dawkins.
“The Bible is full of contradictions and errors. It’s a bunch of myths.”
“Tsk tsk, there goes those intolerant, homophobic, misogynistic, crazy, backwards, hateful, narrow-minded, bigoted, fundamentalist (gasp!) Christians again.”
“Don’t judge, lest ye be judged. (walks away, with an air of superiority)” You mean, kinda like you’re doing now? Good to know.
And my favorite:
“Constantine! Ha-hA!” Somehow, just saying the name is enough to make an “unassailable argument.”
The worst part is the effect all this is having on our youth. They are exiting the Church in droves, and a big reason is because they are not being given answers to all the challenges they face from secular culture.
As C.S Lewis once said,
To be ignorant and simple now—not to be able to meet the enemies on their own ground—would be to throw down our weapons, and to betray our uneducated brethren who have, under God, no defence but us against the intellectual attacks of the heathen. Good philosophy must exist, if for no other reason, because bad philosophy needs to be answered.
If you get caught at work without a good response, that’s ok. I’ve backed down plenty in my time. Don’t beat yourself up over it. It’s allright to get caught with your pants down once…but not twice! After you walk away without a response, go and do a bit of study. Find an answer. In the age of Google, it’s not that difficult! It’s not cowardly if you don’t have all the answers every time. God doesn’t expect you to confidently stand up without pause every time. But…if you blow it off and refuse to better your ambassador skills after you miss an opportunity, that is cowardice.
Speaking about study, you can start by blogrolling Wintery. Then, surf around the following websites often:
Stand to Reason
Leadership University
The following books will help you get started:
Kingdom Triangle, by JP Moreland
Love Your God with All Your Mind, also by JP Moreland
Relativism: Feet Firmly Planted in Midair, by Greg Koukl and Francis Beckwith
If you want to take a step up, go to the following website:
And read the folowing textbook:
Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview
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Craig/Hitchens Post-Debate Analysis
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Thank you, my brother!
Here’s another quote for you:
“False ideas are the greatest obstacles to the reception of the gospel. We may preach with all the fervor of a reformer yet succeed only in winning a straggler here and there.”
From “Christianity and Culture” by J. G. Machen
Thanks for your continued sharing of thoughts and beliefs. I will be using some of your material next week on our mission trip where we will be talking about several of the issues you address in this post.
yeah lets be like watchdogs
when the mailmen come to deliver we will salvate and bark and gnaw at the door protecting our master
@Carrianne
What does that even mean?
David,
Wow! Thanks! I am honored. Let me know how it goes.
Carrianne,
woof…
Amen! This is the kind of kick in the pants we all need!
It’s cute that dogs want to protect their masters, not that he really needs it.
I think its good to speak the truth for those who are ABLE to hear, will hear.
Barking can get annoying and it’s not like mailmen really cause a threat.
If you really want to be effective, PRAY that their eyes and ears will be opened to receive the truth. That when they open the bible it would read as truth and facts not myths. Stand in the gap for that person then and there in your mind and heart- Contest for them, their eyes are closed and time is short
Carrianne,
Well, I agree with you that prayer is important. A whole swath of the Church needs to put prayer on the front burner, and I am included in that group.
However, why does it have to be either/or? It should be both/and.
Think of this scenario: you are in a third world country, watching a child starve. The vultures wait in the background as he wails in pain. What do you do? Pray, yes, but is that all? If all you did was pray, you’d no doubt be upset with yourself later that you didn’t try to actively do something right then and there to help the child.
Why should it be any different when people have doubts, accusations, and objections about Christ?
Lastly, many parents pray fervently for their children, but their kids are being swept out from under their praying hands…they are getting bombarded by a deluge of secular thought and images, and these parents are not engaging their kids and walking them through that. Their kids are walking out the door into a pack of wolves without a leg to stand on…and as a result, they end up leaving the church. Depending on the study, 60-80% of Christian kids walk away from the faith in college. True, its due to many factors, one of them being lack of prayer, but the biggest reason, according to these studies, is that “it doesn’t make sense” to the kids anymore.
A few of the links in my post get into that.
Excellent post and comments.
Many people like to use the “just love them” cop-out. Greg Koukl pointed out how the book of Acts has 13 presentations of the Gospel and love isn’t mentioned once. Not once.
Of course the Gospel has love at its core, but it isn’t like Paul said,”Jesus really loves you, so you might want to think about following him.”
No, He commands us to repent and believe.
Its not a Just love them Cop -out– lol please people who stuff God down peoples throats most of the time do more damage then good. Please be spirit led
I just think without revelation nothing really changes
also not to make yourself just a person who argues for a God who doesn’t need you to stick up for him and win an argument
I think most of the original scenarios you gave were for people who didn’t even believe there IS God much less that he’s Jesus.
Our faith is our mother, we need to defend it as we would defend she who gave us earthly life. If you are talking ’bout my momma you better talk nice, if you talk about my faith, keep smilin’. Nobody is going to Bill Moyer me to my face.
doed that make me a pugnacious Welshman?
Hi Carrianne,
I’m not disputing that we should use discernment when sharing the Gospel. Paul didn’t force it on anyone, nor did Jesus for that matter. I don’t know anyone who is claiming we should.
Cool well I think its natural to defend the man or woman that you love- but within hopes of winning souls not just winning an argument
PS
“Lastly, many parents pray fervently for their children, but their kids are being swept out from under their praying hands…they are getting bombarded by a deluge of secular thought and images, and these parents are not engaging their kids and walking them through that. Their kids are walking out the door into a pack of wolves without a leg to stand on…and as a result, they end up leaving the church. Depending on the study, 60-80% of Christian kids walk away from the faith in college. True, its due to many factors, one of them being lack of prayer, but the biggest reason, according to these studies, is that “it doesn’t make sense” to the kids anymore.”
It’s because they were just fed the information, they didn’t receive understanding
That they eyes of their understanding be enlightned so that they may know what is the hope of his calling
Need to receive the spirit of wisdom and revelation–
I think the book by JI Packer called Concise Theology is a really good starting book to help with many many different topics that people often argue/talk about. Just thought I’d add that to your list.
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Of course, Wintery Knight used to try to defend his faith in public on the Richard Dawkins forum.
He doesn’t now…..
‘Paul, for example, never resorted to the simplistic, you-just-gotta-believe-and-have-faith-ism that is so popular today.’
As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 1 ‘Jews demand miraculous signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles…’
Miraculous signs were the sort of things that Jews demanded, and like worldly wisdom, miraculous signs were not what Christianity supplied.
Raising Lazarus from the dead. 3 hours of darkness, people rising from their graves and appearing to many in the city….
These were the sorts of miraculous signs that Jews demanded. They were as bad as Greeks in demanding things that Christianity was not in the business of supplying.
Those tongues at Pentecost were another miraculous sign of the kind that Jews might have demanded.
Paul considers a hypothetical case of what might happen if a large number of Christians started speaking in tongues and unbelievers were present ‘So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind?’
It is an interesting hypothetical question.
How strange that Paul couldn’t think of an example which might illustrate his point….
CARRIANEE
Depending on the study, 60-80% of Christian kids walk away from the faith in college. True, its due to many factors, one of them being lack of prayer, but the biggest reason, according to these studies, is that “it doesn’t make sense” to the kids anymore.”
It’s because they were just fed the information, they didn’t receive understanding
CARR
This is because there is no Holy Spirit supplying understanding.
Steven,
Your second comment makes no sense. I can’t figure out how it is a response to the words of mine you quoted.
As to your third comment: mere assertion…very difficult to substantiate.
At any rate, thanks for stopping by. Disagreeing voices appreciated.
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