Daily Archives: November 21, 2008

Balancing Scripture, Reason, and Experience

I just picked up Straight and Narrow?  Compassion and Clarity in the Homosexuality Debate by Thomas Schmidt.  It’s a great book for anyone involved in the debate and/or ministry to gays and lesbians.  I’ve read it a few times, and every time I gain perspective from it, but even the first few pages served as a good reminder to me tonight.  In lieu of Tony Jones and Rod Dreher’s conversation about Same-sex Marriage, I’m posting a quote here in the hopes that it gives pause to both sides of this very conentious debate about same-sex marriage specifically and homosexuality in general.  What he says about balance is good stuff:

“I sit staring at a computer screen looking for words to introduce a moral issue, an issue so important that it increasingly appears to be the battleground for all the forces seeking to give shape to the world of the next century.  What appear before me, however, are not words but faces.  For after the politicians and school boards and courts have shaped public policy, after the denominations have interpreted Scripture and tradition, after the educators and scientists and psychologists have explained phenomena, after the media have tailored everything for mass consumption–after all this, people, one at a time, still desire to love and be loved.  Some seek love with members of their own sex.

These are people with faces, people with names, often Christian people, and whatever we conclude about the larger issues their stories represent, we must never lose sight of their individual struggles, their individual pain, their faces.  If we neglect faces, we neglect the gospel.  The gospel is powerful medicine, but ultimately it is not administered by volumes or votes or verdicts.  It is administered by a single trembling hand holding up a spoon before the willing face of another….

One reason I say this is because issues cannot be addressed apart from human experience.  Because our experience is varied, complex and emotionally charged, it is always dangerous to become too general or too abstract….Is the answer then to encourage both sides to trade only stories or only arguments and to stop acting like ships passing in the night?  No.  Life consists of both story and argument, both experience and authority.  The two should be in conversation, not opposition.  That is, the experiences of real people should temper our abstractions; at the same time, our activities should answer to higher authorities such as reason, family, tradition, and Scripture.  To err in either direction produces exactly the same proud cl.. “I know better than you.”  The only difference is that those who pit experience against authority stress “I,” whereas those who pit authority against experience stress “know.”  Both claim to serve the cause of Christ.  Both have lost sight of the way of Christ…

Although I see my primary responsibility to encourage deeper understanding and sensitivity among morally conservative Christians, I hope that I serve another purpose for those who disagree with my conclusions–that is, to demonstrate the possibility of disagreement without stupidity, without hatred, without slogans.  Argue with me, but do not put me in a box, do not make a caricature of me in order to dismiss my conclusions.  Allow me a face.”

Rights, Shmights

Have you seen the kerfuffle going on with eHarmony?1adisharmony1

Read Thomas Sowell’s most recent column.

Do you find a connection between the two? I do.  It’s all about the “right” to have other people aid you in your lifestyle.

Comment away!

Tom Dibble, in my post on “Double Standards,” comments

“Have the protestors at Mormon temples physically stopped people from entering? Do anti-prop 8 protesters have a history of assaulting and blowing up the objects of their protest?

By all means, I agree that any protest should be limited to speech, and any threats (verbal or physical) made by protestors can and should be stopped and punished. Feel free to push for a 15-foot buffer zone law around Mormon and Catholic buildings if that prevents violence.”

Sowell’s column is a good answer to Tom’s question.

Hope

Hope

I was listening to the Albert Mohler Program on the radio today (he’s president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary). He made a point that really made me think.

He mentioned that according to recent calculations, China, perhaps, has the largest number of Christians in the world. Numbers on the low end are at 70 million, while numbers at the high end tally 130 million.

Even if you take the most conservative numbers, the number of Christians is much, much larger than the number of members in the Communist party in China.

This joins reports from all around the world that show Christianity–serious Christianity, that is–is still dramatically on the rise, even (especially) in places that have heavy persecution.

This is news that despite all the craziness that’s going on in the West, God is not done with His church. Though the issues we face here are definitely important, God still marches on.

Another thing Mohler said caught my attention too. He was talking about a recent conversation he had with a Chinese Christian. This Chinese man noted that the Communist government did something very silly that turned out to aid the spreading of the Gospel. As punishment, the government gave Christians dirty, lowly, and unpopular jobs, like garbage collector. These garbage collectors’ job was to collect garbage as they went *door to door.*

So the Communist government in China tried to stamp out a missionary religion by sending its adherents door-to-door…nice.

Just goes to show; what men meant for evil, God meant for good.

This gives me hope, folks.

***One thing that gives me pause, though, is that us Christians in the West seem to not have the same strength of nerve as others in more persecuted lands. The most insidious attacks on the church in the West have often come from inside the gates. Also, many of our ranks have been all too happy to lay down our shields and join the wolf pack. Many of us in the West can be and have been bought. We are far too easily mesmerized by bread and circuses. This is not so good….well, perhaps God will use something like what’s happening in China to get us to wake up and rejoin the faithful.

Tony Jones GLBTQ Blogologue Update

At beliefnet, Tony Jones recently wrote that he is in favor of same-sex marriage.  In the comments section, Tony said:

“Hi everyone. Just a note. This is going to be a long and engaging blogalogue over many days and many posts. Surely, Rod and I will both grapple with the scriptural passages that directly deal with homosexuality and those that indirectly have something to say about this issue. This was simply an opening post to give you something of my story.”

This was, in part, an answer to my concern: where was Scripture?

While he does say he’ll “grapple” with the Scriptural passages in the upcoming posts, I am still concerned.  The post I linked to was called “How I went from Tere to Here.”  It was an account of how he came to his position.  I would think that in an issue like this, at one point in his experience he would have sat down and wrestled with Scripture and reason.  I figure that any Christian worth his/her salt would factor in those two things in how s/he “went from here to there to here.”  But he never hints at this once.  This is an indication to me that *maybe* he rendered a verdict before he consulted Scripture….or at least, Scripture was an afterthought.

Is he letting the tail wag the dog?  Perhaps I’m being uncharitable.  We’ll see

Today, beliefnet posted a video conversation between Rod Dreher and Tony Jones.

Click on the link to follow the whole “blogologue.”

True, True

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Ht: msxnet

Who Wrote the Gospels?

Yesterday I turned in my paper on the formation of the Christian canon…woohoo!

It was a lot of hard work, and it was fun too…I’m a nerd.  So sue me.

There was a lot I learned from doing the research.  One great resource I read was Mark D. Roberts’ book *Can We Trust the Gospels?*

One argument he addresses in the book involves who wrote the Gospels.  Skeptics often argue that the names aren’t authentic.  Mark didn’t write Mark, Matthew didn’t write Matthew, etc.  Rather, they were attached to give authority to the writings, kinda like the noncanonical writings like Gospel of Thomas, Gospel of Judas, Gospel of Bartholomew, etc

Roberts’ answer: “the main flaw in that argument is that two of the biblical Gospels were named after relatively inconsequential characters who did not actually know Jesus in the flesh. If you were a second century Christian wanting to make up an author for a Gospel, you would never choose Mark, and you would never choose Luke because he had not direct connection to Jesus at all, even though he played a bit part in the writings of Paul. If second century Christians were fabricating traditional authorship for the canonical Gospels, surely they could have done a better job. (48-49)

So, ironically, the tendency of the noncanonical Gospels to assign Gospel authorship to prominent disciples actually increases the likelihood that the traditions concerning New Testament Gospel authorship are true, at least with respect to Mark and Luke. And if the orthodox tradition can be seen as trustworthy in these cases, then the presumption of suspicion about the tradition must be wrongheaded. We should accept the ancient tradition unless we have good reason to do otherwise. Moreover, the anonymity of the biblical Gospels bears the stamp of truth whereas the pseudonymity of the noncanonical Gospels suggests their falsehood. (49)”

One small, but significant point.  What do you think?

**FINALLY, a post on Jesus (or at least directly related to Him)…huzzah.